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gregh 2008-02-07 22:48 Grading Law_School
A bit of a surprise today... Don't need to go back.
gregh 2007-08-07 20:55 gradeinflation grades Grading Law_School
I'm not really sure I buy into the idea that grade inflation leads to better job opportunities for law students. In fact, in "The one goes to 11," I mocked the practice. I pointed out, "Recently, there was a limited push by the SBA at USF to look at raising the median; I think it's withered on the vine." Therefore, it gives me no great pleasure to report that USF has decided to repaint the numbers on our grading dial. All current students should have received an email from Dean Micon today informing them of the change. Specifically, we are told that the new policy allows grades to "accurately reflect student achievement, provide students reliable information about their academic progress, and establish a basis for meaningful comparison with both classmates and counterparts from other institutions." I'm at a loss to explain how any of those things is better accomplished by this changed policy. As I look at the tables, here's what I see: 1) One or two students, who would likely get the CALI anyway, not get an A+; 2) Professors no longer have to give out anything lower than a B- in any elective; and 3) The middle is fatter. There are some other changes, but they seem considerably less significant. Two classes saw the greatest impact. Constitutional Law and Evidence previously had 10% to 20% of students receiving grades of C- and below. Now, it's possible that no students will receive a C- or below. I know that many students will be jumping for joy over this. A number will be thrilled with the changes to the grading of bar elective courses. I, personally, don't have a huge problem with it, other than that it throws of my spreadsheets and with the 4.3 value afforded A+'s, potentially my class rank extrapolations. That, and that I don't really see the point.
gregh 2007-02-14 14:33 final_exams Grading Law_School
Prof. Hoffman responded to my previous post. One of his commenters takes issue with the "fun stories" lead. I don't. In the big picture, these events aren't going to matter much at all. I've even gotten to the point where I laugh when telling the story of my Contracts II exam day meltdown (sort of a "What are these contract things of which you speak?" thing.) Concurring Opinions: Reviewing Grading: Part II:
To be sure, I didn't mean to suggest that grade lowering post-review is commonplace. Nor did I even intend to suggest it's the norm for when misreported grades are found. The school does make it very difficult for professors to change grades; at least, that's what professors and the student handbook tell us. Seeing as the Academic Standards Committee that makes the decisions is comprised of fellow professors, I do wonder how difficult it truly is. Basically, regrading of an exam will not happen at USF. Corrections for mathematical and reporting errors may occur if approved by the committee. (If I had the student handbook handy -- say, if the school would provide it in a digital form -- I would quote letter and verse.) In my nearly 5.5 semesters here, I personally know of only one student who has had a grade lowered. I personally know of only one student who has had a grade raised. It just so happens that it was the same student in the same semester. And it was our first semester. As a result, those things have stuck with me, and I may well blow things out of proportion as a result. I'd definitely recommend for those who wonder about their grades or wonder what they could have possibly done wrong to go and find out. I haven't done it often, not so much because of the one instance of grade lowering -- though that did keep me from seeing that prof that semester, and my worst grade in law school came from him the following semester in Contracts II -- but largely because it's been easy to figure out what I did right or wrong. I don't have many grades down the middle.
gregh 2007-02-13 10:45 final_exams Grading Law_School
Prof. Dave Hoffman of Temple wonders about the different exam review cultures. Concurring Opinions: Exam Review Culture: The basic story would go like this. At some schools - including the one where I teach - there is a strong culture of encouraging students to come to professors' offices after receiving grades to review the exam and find ways to improve their performance. To my mind, this is a very good thing - not just for students, who can be taught to do better on an economically consequential activity - but for professors, who can figure out exactly how badly written exams confuse test-takers. Somewhere between half and two-thirds of my fall semester class came in to meet with me over the last two weeks (at a half-hour a meeting). But, looking back at where I went to law school, I can't remember ever going to talk to a professor about my exams, nor any of my friends doing so either. Casual inquiry among conference participants suggests that a culture of encouraging colleagues to undertake individualized exam review is more common at schools outside of the traditional top tier. At USF, it certainly seems to be commonplace. I've never actually done it myself. I've picked up my exams on occasion. Ironically, only the good ones, to see just how good. There's always a lingering sense of embarrassment for me to go see a professor about a bad exam. (And yet, I'll happily talk to Prof. Osborn, who happens to have given 2 of my 3 worst exams, about just about anything but Contracts.) To some degree, I can put poor performance on procrastination, bad exam day, etc., and I just leave it at that. At this stage of the game, I'm not sure how much I'd gain from reviewing exams, anyway. And then there's the one other bit. My friend who went to review his exam, only to have the professor discover it had been misrecorded to the benefit of the student. And the professor's next move? Why, of course, he lowered the student's grade. And it never would have happened had the student not gone to review his exam with the professor. I immediately knew I wouldn't be going to review my exam with that prof, and I think that was always in the back of my mind when I considered doing it other times. One other point. The same student who had the grade lowered after the one exam was reviewed had a miscalculation appear on another exam in the same semester for a full grade bump! That was back in first-year. It made it very easy to become jaded about exam grading right away.
gregh 2007-02-02 12:55 final_exams Grading Law_School
Slow-typing alum sues law school - Campus Life: An alum is suing the University Law School because he believes its grading policies discriminate against slow typists. So, law student gets poor grades. Law student can't get job. Law student, after-the-fact, decides to sue for some bizarre rationale. What exactly was he doing during his three years of law school to figure out why his grades were so bad? Could he really not get his head around this typing thing possibly having an impact? Of course, I disagree that typing speed is an inherent advantage. I type fairly quickly, 100-110 WPM on my PowerBook, and around 85 WPM on my ego keboard (see here, here, or here.) I may be faster on the Kinesis now; I haven't taking a typing test in a long time, and in the nearly three years I've been using the Kinesis at work and at home, I've gotten pretty used to it. Has fast typing saved me? No. Two of my 3 lowest grades in law school came on typed exams with no multiple choice or otherwise handwritten component. In spite of my regular rants about hating multiple choice components in exams, I don't believe I've ever gotten lower than an A- on a timed exam that had a multiple choice component. On the other hand, I have received grades lower than A- on exams that were strictly essay exams or otherwise typed-answer exams, despite the fact that I type faster than the vast majority of my classmates. Finally, I know lots of folks who have done better than I who are slower typists. Of course, none of this should be news to someone who went to law school. It's not always the amount of content you can get into an exam that is important; it's getting what the professors want to see into the exam that is important. I can spew and spew and spew, and it won't benefit me one bit if it's not something the professor has deemed worthy of points. Hit the high points while going more slowly, and it would be easy and very doable to do better.
gregh 2006-12-14 10:31 Grading Law_School
Prof. Dan Solove, of the George Washington University Law School, details what we students already knew about final exam grading. Concurring Opinions: A Guide to Grading Exams: As you can see, grading takes considerable time and effort. But students can be assured that modern grading techniques will produce the most precise and accurate grading possible, assuming professors have achieved mastery of the necessary grading skills. He considers one of the most difficult questions a law professor is likely to face: or
Personally, I'm in favor of the latter, as I type fast and sometimes get overly verbose. That's what really has me stressed about Evidence. A Scantron and 2-page limit on the essay won't help me get to the bottom step. (Via Madisonian.)
gregh 2006-06-24 18:31 Collective Grading Law_School
I've posted current versions of the percentile-by-GPA breakdown for USF, as of Spring 2006. I've also updated the USF First-Time Bar Passage Rate by Quintile document. In the case of the former, the good news (for me) is that my performance this past semester moved me back into the top-15%.
gregh 2006-06-09 05:11 Grading Law_School
Profs. Volokh and Kerr on grade inflation and grading. Lots of interesting stuff came out of these posts on a variety of grading issues. I've addressed a handful below. (This is a long post.) Law school grade inflation is already well known. Some of the commentary is a funny. Kerr points to Stanford:
Doesn't it seem like that justification is somewhat lacking in any sort of logic? Raising grades, inherently a relative measure, should somehow be seen as a way of better expressing quality? By that methodology, wouldn't it be best just to move to a 4.0 mean, with a 4.0 cap? If a 3.4 mean is expressive of the quality of Stanford's students, surely a 4.0 means they're that much better. Maybe 11? Volokh addresses the justification for UCLA's recent changes:
I'm apparently pretty dense, because it seems to me that most of these differences don't exist when one considers the heavy use of class rank in law school placement. Now, perhaps if a recruiter is looking at a grade in an individual class, there might be a problem. However, that just doesn't seem to fit the mold we hear about. Basically, I wonder if this is a real problem, or if this is a made-up problem based on anecdotal whines. Recently, there was a limited push by the SBA at USF to look at raising the median; I think it's withered on the vine. I guess I figure if I just claw my way back toward the top 10%, I'm not really that worried about the absolute GPA. I have a really difficult time believing that GPA is a number in wide use by legal recruiters, given that people don't normally talk about anything other than position in class. Non-law-school people I meet (which is most, given the whole working full-time thing) ask me all the time about the justification for the curves, most feeling it doesn't make much sense. Volokh gives what I think is one of the best justifications here, in particular:
Next, and I thought this was really cool, Volokh calls students who get A's and A+'s to congratulate them. I don't know the actual logistics of that. My professors have said they don't get the list matching names to grades until well after grades are submitted. Some have said they don't like looking at the lists, because they don't want to color their opinions of students if they encounter them in later classes, or in some cases, because they don't want students to feel they've got negative halos when they encounter professors later. I have no idea how many of my professors look or care to look. I would think many would at least be curious to see how certain people did. However, I have no idea. This may be a sign that I don't interact with enough of my professors outside of class. And finally, for those who have any question about this grade inflation concept, Prof. Volokh provides Justice Blackmun's law school grades:
And that was good enough for top 25% at HLS. Law students today, even at the harshest-grading schools, have nothing to complain about, it would seem.
gregh 2006-06-08 17:17 Grading Law_School
It was a very good semester. Not a perfect semester; but very good. I won't know until the numbers come out for the semester, but based on last year's numbers, I may have come very close to jumping into the top-15%. (My GPA now puts me about .02 points away from the cut-off as of the end of last year.) Two closed-book exams; two very respectable grades. Not that there wasn't a scary moment. When the Crim Pro grade first came up, it said "NR," which I think means "No Credit." Maybe it means something else. I was concerned, because I missed three classes, two while I was sick, and one when I got caught at work. Missing more than 20% of the class meetings allows them to withhold credit. We had 15 weeks in the semester. But then, our professor canceled the last class meeting, leaving us 14 meetings, with 20% being 2.8 classes. And I'd missed 3. Fortunately, that NR left for something much, much better. Update: Weird. So, I logged in to the USF site today, and the portal showed I had a personal message telling me my grade had been updated. I guess that first one did post, and then they changed it. I'm sure curious about what the story is behind that. Ok. Maybe just an automated systems bobble:
gregh 2006-06-05 16:30 Grading Law_School waiting_for_grades
It's (roughly) 5:30. Three weeks (21 days) from the day of the Criminal Procedure final was Friday. Grades should be in. Why don't I have mine yet? |
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